Short answer
A floor that gives underfoot has a wet subfloor, and new vinyl laid over it changes nothing. Find the water first. The usual sources are a failed toilet seal, a leaking tub or shower joint, or damp air rising from a crawlspace or from under a mobile home. Once the source is fixed, a contractor cuts out the soft sheets and screws new ones down, and the finished floor goes back on top.
Find out how far the soft area goes in 10 minutes
- Walk the floor barefoot and mark every spot that gives. Work from the doorway toward the tub.
- Press your heel beside the toilet base. A failed toilet seal makes the floor softest in a ring around the flange.
- Press along the caulk line in front of the tub or shower. A split caulk joint or a leaking pan softens that strip first.
- Press next to the floor vent and at the metal transition strip. Soft wood there points at damp air under the floor, not a fixture leak.
- Rock the toilet with both hands. Any movement means the flange, or the wood holding it, has gone.
- Feel for the firm line down the middle of the room. Firm over the beam and soft between it means the sheathing failed, not the framing.
- Look from below where you can: crawlspace, basement ceiling, or the belly wrap under a mobile home. Stains, sagging insulation and wet ground name the source.
If one small area is soft and the rest of the floor is firm, a contractor replaces those sheets in a day. If the soft area is spreading, the floor bounces as you walk, or it is soft at the vent and the transition as well, water is coming from below and the whole floor has to be opened.
Repair or replace
| Situation | What to do |
|---|---|
| One soft area, firm floor elsewhere, source found and fixed | Repair. Cut out the wet sheathing and patch it back to the joists. |
| Soft ring at the toilet, toilet rocks | Repair. Patch the subfloor, then reset the toilet on a new flange and seal. |
| Soft at the vent, the transition and in front of the tub | Replace the subfloor wall to wall. Moisture from below has reached all of it. |
| Floor bounces, and it got worse in weeks | Stop walking on it and hire someone this week. Bounce means the framing is carrying damage. |
| Mobile home, original floor, soft across more than one spot | Replace. Wet particleboard crumbles and will not hold a patch or a screw. |
| Softness came back within a year of a patch | Replace, and pay to have the moisture source found before anyone cuts. |
What it costs
Runhome contractor estimates for this job, including the trip and assessment.
| Option | Range |
|---|---|
| Repair one soft section, patch the subfloor back | $395 to $800 |
| Replace the subfloor wall to wall, small bathroom | $720 to $1,535 |
| Full tear-out, new subfloor and new finished floor | $1,125 to $2,500 |
Can I do it myself?
You can do the finding yourself: press the floor, mark the soft spots, rock the toilet, and look underneath with a flashlight. Cutting is different work. The saw has to stop at the joists, the toilet has to come off and go back on a fresh seal, and wet particleboard tears out in pieces. Hire for this whenever the floor bounces, a joist or beam looks wet or dark, or the work is under a mobile home, because a cut in the wrong place takes the support out from under you. Once you are steering around a spot in your own bathroom, it has stopped being a weekend job.
What a contractor will ask you
Have these ready and you skip the back-and-forth.
- Where it is softest: at the toilet base, in front of the tub or shower, or the same in both.
- When you first felt the give, in weeks, months or years.
- How old the floor is, and when the bathroom was last remodeled.
- Whether there has ever been a leak or overflow from the toilet, tub or shower.
- Whether it feels like a gentle sponge over a wide area or distinct crunchy spots under the vinyl.
- Whether the floor is soft past the transition strip, in the next room.
- Whether anyone has been under the house, or under the mobile home, to look at the floor from below.
- How far the new subfloor should go: under the toilet only, toilet plus shower, or wall to wall.
- A wide photo of the whole floor with the toilet and the tub in frame.
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